Luv Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think this year I've seen the "celebrity" side of Gerry come out more. And that element of him may have always been there...but now that people actually know who he is, we're seeing it more. The fact is, the guy he seemed to be three and a half years ago isn't exactly what we're seeing now. From the early interviews and such, I never would have guessed that I'd see much of him from the paparazzi/tabloids. I thought he was more protective of his privacy...and I didn't think he was one who was going to frequent the LA clubbing scene. I thought...he was a different sort. Above that. He kind of SAID he was above it...he said the Hollywood scene made him sick or something like that. And yet? Pretty much all I've heard about him in the past year (aside from PSILY stuff) is what club he's spotted coming out of or hanging around outside of (with vibrating condoms? what?) Of course none of this matters. He's an actor. What he does on screen is all that concerns me. I learned my lesson...don't pay attention to what they do in their private lives. Just when you think you have an inkling of what they're like...they'll prove you wrong. I was enchanted with Gerry three years ago. He seemed so cool. And I'm sure he still is. But he isn't any cooler than many other actors I admire...many I admire more for their actual acting. He seems to be...I'm sorry to say..."just another movie star" to me now. Acting like so many of them do. Approaching 40 years old and still being spotted regularly at "hot" night clubs in LA with various women. No...that's not what I expected. But hey...it's none of my business. I'll just wait for a movie that impresses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMe Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think this year I've seen the "celebrity" side of Gerry come out more. And that element of him may have always been there...but now that people actually know who he is, we're seeing it more. The fact is, the guy he seemed to be three and a half years ago isn't exactly what we're seeing now. From the early interviews and such, I never would have guessed that I'd see much of him from the paparazzi/tabloids. I thought he was more protective of his privacy...and I didn't think he was one who was going to frequent the LA clubbing scene. I thought...he was a different sort. Above that. He kind of SAID he was above it...he said the Hollywood scene made him sick or something like that. And yet? Pretty much all I've heard about him in the past year (aside from PSILY stuff) is what club he's spotted coming out of or hanging around outside of (with vibrating condoms? what?) Of course none of this matters. He's an actor. What he does on screen is all that concerns me. I learned my lesson...don't pay attention to what they do in their private lives. Just when you think you have an inkling of what they're like...they'll prove you wrong. I was enchanted with Gerry three years ago. He seemed so cool. And I'm sure he still is. But he isn't any cooler than many other actors I admire...many I admire more for their actual acting. He seems to be...I'm sorry to say..."just another movie star" to me now. Acting like so many of them do. Approaching 40 years old and still being spotted regularly at "hot" night clubs in LA with various women. No...that's not what I expected. But hey...it's none of my business. I'll just wait for a movie that impresses me. Whereas I agree with you that a change has taken place in how he allows himself presented on his downtime, I don't think it is he who has changed as much as his celebrity has changed. Frankly there are provocations for tabloid and razzis to get "the picture" of Mr. Butler doing what ever. I mean the man is hounded now. That alone is enough to generate all kinds of pictures and situations and spins on what the pictures are. The fact that there is spin now indicates he is a celebrity. Before he was just another actor, from somewhere with accents, and what was your name again...Gerrr Gerrr Gerrrarrrd? I have noticed that his eyes are sadder and more guarded. I may be projecting and mistaken. I don't want him to pay such a high price as his serenity. But this is what Hollywood can do to you. He literally is in the belly of the beast. So I lift him up with prayer and leave him to God. He said that Scotland is where his heart is. I hope that Burns is settled shortly and he can return to his heartland. I know as a mum myself I would want my baby boy home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEyes Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) I think we have to take into consideration that the papparazzi often exagerate events in order to sell their stories. I'm sure that what we read is 90% false and that what we read about Gerry in tabloids is very far from the true Gerry, the one that he keeps private. He's a good looking man, he's single and he's a star, Many young upcoming actresses or models are on the prowl in clubs for someone like him to come along. Being a healthy man, he probably indulges once in a while in what is being offered to him, like any other normal single guy would, I'm sure. LOL BUT, is that really Gerry, is this all that makes him? I think not. There's a side of Gerry that only he, his family and his true friends know and sometimes he lets his guards down and lets us, the fans, catch a glimpse of himself, making our hearts melt in the process. Then there are times when you look at him and you do see sadness in his eyes. Hollywood is not all golden and fun. I'm sure sometimes he must miss home and the contact of "real people" who truly care about him and not about fame and fortune. I'm not painting Gerry to be perfect and without faults, but one has to realise that no one is perfect in this world. We all have our faults and our qualities. Aren't we all humans after all? Gerry always refered to himself as a bad boy with a golden heart. I think he's a very sensitive man, hiding his emotions behind that bad boy façade to protect himself from being hurt by life in Tinseltown. I'm sure his golden heart weighs alot more when it's all about the ones he loves. Edited May 31, 2008 by GreenEyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I must say I still do not see anything that would make me respect him less than before. Maybe he is not so enthusiastic as he was few years ago (actually, he seems to be rather tired quite often and it makes me worried). Also, as he got more famous, the paparazzis go much more "after" him, pose him many unpleasant questions (which wasn't before) - I think I would react much more rudely if I were him... I don't believe speculations these disgraceful people usually make up as "sensational" news. And that he was couple of times in clubs other celebrities go? If he spent every night there (which would be pretty boring without a drop of alcohol, I assume), we might discuss it... But he was reported having been there maybe 3 - 4 times in six months, I cannot see anything bad about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisabeth1975 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think we have to take into consideration that the papparazzi often exagerate events in order to sell their stories. I'm sure that what we read is 90% false and that what we read about Gerry in tabloids is very far from the true Gerry, the one that he keeps private. He's a good looking man, he's single and he's a star, Many young upcoming actresses or models are on the prowl in clubs for someone like him to come along. Being a healthy man, he probably indulges once in a while in what is being offered to him, like any other normal single guy would, I'm sure. LOL BUT, is that really Gerry, is this all that makes him? I think not. There's a side of Gerry that only he, his family and his true friends know and sometimes he lets his guards down and lets us, the fans, catch a glimpse of himself, making our hearts melt in the process. Then there are times when you look at him and you do see sadness in his eyes. Hollywood is not all golden and fun. I'm sure sometimes he must miss home and the contact of "real people" who truly care about him and not about fame and fortune. I'm not painting Gerry to be perfect and without faults, but one has to realise that no one is perfect in this world. We all have our faults and our qualities. Aren't we all humans after all? Gerry always refered to himself as a bad boy with a golden heart. I think he's a very sensitive man, hiding his emotions behind that bad boy façade to protect himself from being hurt by life in Tinseltown. I'm sure his golden heart weighs alot more when it's all about the ones he loves. wise words GreenEyes, he is probably going out more often with other' Hollywood people' also because now he has his own production company and as far people say, most of the business happen at parties or similar things. I believe that he had and has to 'paly this game' too now that he has both the role of acotr AND producer. Ad yes, imho he appears to be a very sensitive person, so sensitive that sometimes he doesn't know how to deal with that, as if it were too much. We only have to hope that Hollywood won't hurt him too much and that he actually find some time to relax and rest because he looks like he deseprately needs that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think this "sensitive soul" that you all are so concerned about has you fooled. I really do. He's not the innocent, sweet, vulnerable victim that many want to make him out to be. Acting like he doesn't know how to handle himself because he's so overwhelmed with it all...and he's so "sensitive" etc? Please. He's "been there, done that" and knows better than anyone the price of living fast and wild. I don't think he's suffering one bit. He's having a good time. If he didn't like hanging out at LA clubs, he wouldn't do it. Plenty of great actors have made names for themselves without schmoozing at Club Hyde and elsewhere. If he didn't like working constantly...he wouldn't do it. He's said several times that he's a workaholic...he's happiest when he's working. It's his choice. He was a wild, partying playboy when he was younger. He may have given up the drink and the smokes...but that doesn't mean he's given up the rest of it. He's a social critter...and he has said himself that he "likes to have a good time". I think making excuses for his behavior is a sure sign of not "accepting" the "real" him. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck....it's usually a duck. If you don't like the way the duck is walking and talking...then you can't just pretend it's a confused, sensitive, misunderstood chicken. I don't care if he goes clubbing every night of his life and sleeps with half of Hollywood. I also don't care if he decides to move to a cottage in the Scottish Highlands and become celibate. As long as he makes good movies and puts in great performances...I "accept" him. He's an actor. Acting is the only thing that matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRemiLove Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think this "sensitive soul" that you all are so concerned about has you fooled. I really do. He's not the innocent, sweet, vulnerable victim that many want to make him out to be. Acting like he doesn't know how to handle himself because he's so overwhelmed with it all...and he's so "sensitive" etc? Please. He's "been there, done that" and knows better than anyone the price of living fast and wild. I don't think he's suffering one bit. He's having a good time. If he didn't like hanging out at LA clubs, he wouldn't do it. Plenty of great actors have made names for themselves without schmoozing at Club Hyde and elsewhere. If he didn't like working constantly...he wouldn't do it. He's said several times that he's a workaholic...he's happiest when he's working. It's his choice. He was a wild, partying playboy when he was younger. He may have given up the drink and the smokes...but that doesn't mean he's given up the rest of it. He's a social critter...and he has said himself that he "likes to have a good time". I think making excuses for his behavior is a sure sign of not "accepting" the "real" him. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck....it's usually a duck. If you don't like the way the duck is walking and talking...then you can't just pretend it's a confused, sensitive, misunderstood chicken. I don't care if he goes clubbing every night of his life and sleeps with half of Hollywood. I also don't care if he decides to move to a cottage in the Scottish Highlands and become celibate. As long as he makes good movies and puts in great performances...I "accept" him. He's an actor. Acting is the only thing that matters to me. Luv, you are scary me. I am hypnotized by his deceptful aura. I won't leave! No no NO no NO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think this "sensitive soul" that you all are so concerned about has you fooled. I really do. He's not the innocent, sweet, vulnerable victim that many want to make him out to be. Acting like he doesn't know how to handle himself because he's so overwhelmed with it all...and he's so "sensitive" etc? Please. He's "been there, done that" and knows better than anyone the price of living fast and wild. I don't think he's suffering one bit. He's having a good time. If he didn't like hanging out at LA clubs, he wouldn't do it. Plenty of great actors have made names for themselves without schmoozing at Club Hyde and elsewhere. If he didn't like working constantly...he wouldn't do it. He's said several times that he's a workaholic...he's happiest when he's working. It's his choice. He was a wild, partying playboy when he was younger. He may have given up the drink and the smokes...but that doesn't mean he's given up the rest of it. He's a social critter...and he has said himself that he "likes to have a good time". I think making excuses for his behavior is a sure sign of not "accepting" the "real" him. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck....it's usually a duck. If you don't like the way the duck is walking and talking...then you can't just pretend it's a confused, sensitive, misunderstood chicken. I don't care if he goes clubbing every night of his life and sleeps with half of Hollywood. I also don't care if he decides to move to a cottage in the Scottish Highlands and become celibate. As long as he makes good movies and puts in great performances...I "accept" him. He's an actor. Acting is the only thing that matters to me. Just because a person has a wild side, likes the ladies and does things others view as immature, does not mean they cannot also have a sensitive and introspective side to their nature. Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) The worst thing is that we do not know if (and how) "wild" this side is!!!!!!!!!! All you are referring to are just rumours, well, there are some pictures he actually was (not so often) in certain places, but it does not necessarilly mean he behaved wildly there!!! Do all those paparazzis appear to you more trustworthy than Mr. Butler? To me, definitely not. He might have some bad sides, and I am sure I would accept them if I knew, but I refuse to accept this kind of "information" that is presented to us and will not form any judgements based on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited May 31, 2008 by Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa722 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) I think Gerry has an introspective side. If I didn't think there was some depth there, I wouldn't be a fan. But he's just fine there in big bad Hollywood - and does just what he likes to do. Sweet maybe....but no, not a "sweet vulnerable victim". Edited May 31, 2008 by lisa722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Just because a person has a wild side, likes the ladies and does things others view as immature, does not mean they cannot also have a sensitive and introspective side to their nature. Swannie Oh, I agree completely Swannie. I was just trying to balance out the picture of him. Surely he has a sensitive side...don't we all? And I think he almost has to have that sensitivity and introspective nature to be an actor in the first place. He wouldn't be very good at his job if he didn't. I just think sometimes people are carrying the "beautiful soul" business a bit too far. Like he's some sort of angel sent down from heaven that is innocent to all the "evil" of Hollywood and needs someone to prootect him from it because he's too sweet and sensitive to know how to take care of himself. Like his "beautiful soul" is getting sucked out by the monster that is Hollywood...but it's not his fault. He's a grown man. A very intelligent grown man. He makes his own decisions...he can handle the consequences. Personally I think he digs the celebrity scene. At least he seems to right now. He's loving his life. Sure he's not going to look bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in every single picture ever taken of him...who would? He is a human being...lest anyone has forgotten. Just because he's Gerry Butler doesn't mean he has to look joyous 24/7. A picture of him with a scowl or an exhausted look doesn't automatically mean he's on the verge of a breakdown and needs to run home to his mother. It probably just means he's tired. He's gonna get tired. Everyone does. Even Gerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Just because a person has a wild side, likes the ladies and does things others view as immature, does not mean they cannot also have a sensitive and introspective side to their nature. Swannie Oh, I agree completely Swannie. I was just trying to balance out the picture of him. Surely he has a sensitive side...don't we all? And I think he almost has to have that sensitivity and introspective nature to be an actor in the first place. He wouldn't be very good at his job if he didn't. I just think sometimes people are carrying the "beautiful soul" business a bit too far. Like he's some sort of angel sent down from heaven that is innocent to all the "evil" of Hollywood and needs someone to prootect him from it because he's too sweet and sensitive to know how to take care of himself. Like his "beautiful soul" is getting sucked out by the monster that is Hollywood...but it's not his fault. He's a grown man. A very intelligent grown man. He makes his own decisions...he can handle the consequences. Personally I think he digs the celebrity scene. At least he seems to right now. He's loving his life. Sure he's not going to look bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in every single picture ever taken of him...who would? He is a human being...lest anyone has forgotten. Just because he's Gerry Butler doesn't mean he has to look joyous 24/7. A picture of him with a scowl or an exhausted look doesn't automatically mean he's on the verge of a breakdown and needs to run home to his mother. It probably just means he's tired. He's gonna get tired. Everyone does. Even Gerry. Well if that is indeed how some of the fans feel about him, then I guess that's their issue to deal with. For some of the fans, Gerry has been an "angel" of sorts, even if he is a very human one. Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixgirl Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I think we have to take into consideration that the papparazzi often exagerate events in order to sell their stories. I'm sure that what we read is 90% false and that what we read about Gerry in tabloids is very far from the true Gerry, the one that he keeps private. He's a good looking man, he's single and he's a star, Many young upcoming actresses or models are on the prowl in clubs for someone like him to come along. Being a healthy man, he probably indulges once in a while in what is being offered to him, like any other normal single guy would, I'm sure. LOL BUT, is that really Gerry, is this all that makes him? I think not. There's a side of Gerry that only he, his family and his true friends know and sometimes he lets his guards down and lets us, the fans, catch a glimpse of himself, making our hearts melt in the process. Then there are times when you look at him and you do see sadness in his eyes. Hollywood is not all golden and fun. I'm sure sometimes he must miss home and the contact of "real people" who truly care about him and not about fame and fortune. I'm not painting Gerry to be perfect and without faults, but one has to realise that no one is perfect in this world. We all have our faults and our qualities. Aren't we all humans after all? Gerry always refered to himself as a bad boy with a golden heart. I think he's a very sensitive man, hiding his emotions behind that bad boy façade to protect himself from being hurt by life in Tinseltown. I'm sure his golden heart weighs alot more when it's all about the ones he loves. Perfectly said! People have accused me of putting Gerry on a pedestal. Okay, I know in the beginning I did. The more I got to know him, though, the more I admired and loved him. He's off his pedestal now . . . but still remains in my heart (isn't that poetic?). Okay, mushy crap aside: Gerry IS a human being for God's sake . . . . leave him alone. He doesn't owe ANYBODY anything. He doesn't have to prove that he's something WE want him to be. If he wants to go to a club, I say good for him! He's a beautiful, sexy, healthy man who likes to have sex and likes to have a good time. What should he do? Say, "Oh, no, I can't have fun tonight. What would my fans think of me?" Bullcrap. Of course he has changed. Everyone does, and would. His name is more well known. He HAS to play the game or he'll go nowhere in Hollywood. The reason we haven't heard about other actors doing this is MAYBE because we didn't follow another actor's career so closely? I'm just guessing here. As for the the club thing . . . here's what I think: I think Gerry is STILL doing all the things he's always done, but we're hearing about it more because his name is more well known now. I don't think the clubbing is new at all, except that maybe it's easier for him to get into better quality clubs. Know what I mean? Swannie is right . . . just because a man goes to clubs or partays a bit, doesn't mean there isn't a deepness to his soul. Gerry has shown us small glimpses of that soul over the years, and there's nothing anyone can say to make me believe that all of a sudden his soul has changed. Our souls don't change, our actions may, but not the core of who we are. And at the core, Gerry is a good, decent, honest man who just wants to be noticed for doing something good in the world through film. I also like Donnie's observation . . . who DO you trust more? Gerry or the paparazzi, whose job it is to make up stories and show us our favorite people in the WORST possible ways? They're vultures and are only out to make money off of other people's mistakes and misfortunes. Bottom feeders is what they are! Unless and until Gerry himself does or says something to the contrary, my fandom, my committment, my admiration, my respect and yes, my love, for him will not change based upon some paparazzi's intentionally hurtful statements. JMHO. Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixgirl Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Well if that is indeed how some of the fans feel about him, then I guess that's their issue to deal with. For some of the fans, Gerry has been an "angel" of sorts, even if he is a very human one. Swannie Yes, he has. Very much so . . . for many of us. That will never be taken away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I don't think I'm being clear here. The topic of this thread is if we're willing to accept the "real Gerry". I am. But I'm not so sure about most of the other people in this thread. Nobody ever said that Gerry's "soul" has changed. I think Gerry is EXACTLY the same person today that he was over three years ago when I first Googled him. I think his situation has changed, but nothing he's doing now surprises me that much or seems out of character. I think a lot of fans have a very romanticized idea of this man in their heads that they've fallen in love with. But I don't think THAT is anymore the "real" Gerry than the one I see...they normal guy who is having fun being a movie star and likes to go out and bump and grind with some honeys at the club now and then. Maybe what I perceive as the "real" Gerry doesn't jive with what the rest of you see as the "real" Gerry. But that's to be expected. And I'm not knocking you all...I'm just saying I see a different guy than you do. And I do "accept" him. I've always "accepted" him (whatever that means). It's not my place to "reject" him. He's just an actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixgirl Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Luv, you keep saying, "he's just an actor" like it's a bad thing. He's not a cartoon! Like I say to my son all the time when he's watching his Anime and gets really into it: "It's just a cartoon." But saying Gerry is "just an actor" (and you've said it about three times now) indicated that you have lost some respect for him as a man, or as a person I guess. I think that's sad. Becuase you've seen him change you can no longer consider him anything other than "just an actor". Everyone is entitled to their opinions, yours included, Luv. But don't knock those of us who thing Gerry is more than "just an actor". He's a human being that we admire, respect, and for those of us lucky enough to have met him, have been touched by that real person in some small way. But what do I know? I'm "just a fangirl". Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Luv, you keep saying, "he's just an actor" like it's a bad thing. Quite the contrary. Maybe I should say "he's just an actor to me". Because that is all he is to me. I think he's interesting, smart, witty, etc, etc...but when push comes to shove...he's just an actor. He's not the Messiah. At least to ME he's not. So the question of what he does on his own time and whether or not I "accept" it is pointless for me I guess. Sure I "accept" it. I'd "accept" it if he got his kicks wearing women's clothing and strutting around at gay bars. I don't care. If he cursed every fan out that he ever met, I'd "accept" it. Because what I care about is what he's doing on screen. Now THAT, I'm a bit disappointed in...but as far as who Gerry is off-screen? I think he's fine. I don't care. He seems happy...so that's great! Whatever floats his boat. I've been a fan for as long as many here...but I've never held him on a pedestal. I feel like I have always accepted what comes closer to the "real" Gerry than many others. But hey...I'm not trying to tell others how to feel. You all see what you see and love him for your personal reasons. That's totally cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annieday Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I think this year I've seen the "celebrity" side of Gerry come out more. And that element of him may have always been there...but now that people actually know who he is, we're seeing it more. The fact is, the guy he seemed to be three and a half years ago isn't exactly what we're seeing now. From the early interviews and such, I never would have guessed that I'd see much of him from the paparazzi/tabloids. I thought he was more protective of his privacy...and I didn't think he was one who was going to frequent the LA clubbing scene. I thought...he was a different sort. Above that. He kind of SAID he was above it...he said the Hollywood scene made him sick or something like that. And yet? Pretty much all I've heard about him in the past year (aside from PSILY stuff) is what club he's spotted coming out of or hanging around outside of (with vibrating condoms? what?) Of course none of this matters. He's an actor. What he does on screen is all that concerns me. I learned my lesson...don't pay attention to what they do in their private lives. Just when you think you have an inkling of what they're like...they'll prove you wrong. I was enchanted with Gerry three years ago. He seemed so cool. And I'm sure he still is. But he isn't any cooler than many other actors I admire...many I admire more for their actual acting. He seems to be...I'm sorry to say..."just another movie star" to me now. Acting like so many of them do. Approaching 40 years old and still being spotted regularly at "hot" night clubs in LA with various women. No...that's not what I expected. But hey...it's none of my business. I'll just wait for a movie that impresses me. This earlier post of yours seems to suggest you are surprised with what he is doing now. For someone who is (or isn't) disillusioned with Gerry, I wonder why you spend so much time on Gerard Butler fansites? Your feelings about him are no more valid than anyone else's here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DonnaKat Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 It's never a wise thing to put someone on such a high pedestal that you set yourself up for disappointment. I've learned that the hard way. There have been people in my life that I thought could do no wrong...friends, members of my family, etc...and when they failed me, I felt hurt and betrayed. In turn, I've had others put me in that position as well. When I was attending church and was an active member of the ministry, I had so many people relying on me to be the responsible "leader", it seemed I was never allowed to make a mistake - and when I did, I felt like a failure rather than someone who had merely failed, or showed my human side. When I quit going to church, a lot of people were disappointed in me, and were hurt...which in turn hurt me even more. But in my defense, I never asked them to put that burden on me in the first place. With that being said, do I accept or reject Gerry? Of course I accept him...just the same way I accept each of you. Do I think he's perfect, or in need of my protection? Of course not! He's a grown man who can take care of himself. I will defend him just the same as I would defend any of you if I thought you were being unjustly accused, but at the same time I'm not naive enough to think that he has never done anything I wouldn't approve of. But that's fine. He doesn't need my approval, any more than I need his. I think everyone here has brought up very valid points, and I can see both sides of the issue. The truth is, do any of us really "know" him? Do we really know each other? Folks only let us see what they want us to see. Case in point, there are things in my life I don't even share with my friends or family. I'm often misunderstood myself...it would be even moreso if I had paparazzi and media in my face all the time, and fansites that talked about me 24/7. Truth is, if people really knew everything there was about me, I'd probably have a lot fewer friends than I have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I don't think anyone here sees Gerry as the Messiah, or the next great guru, or any such thing. When people first discover Gerry, sure, they go a little bit crazy, and maybe at first he can do no wrong. But gradually, like the rest of us, new fans accept him for EXACTLY who he is... or they move on. I have seen quite a few fans join this site and post like mad, only to leave after a few months when he maybe didn't measure up to their expectations. Hey, that's fine, and it is going to happen. I think the truth is, that many of us STILL like him.... we still like listening to his interviews, we still like watching his films, even when he DOES disappoint us. Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Okay, fair enough. I do seem to be contradicting myself. I guess maybe my initial hope was that he wasn't a typical gonna-do-the-club-scene type celebrity. But when I get real with myself...I think it's pretty obvious that he is what he is (from the early pre-acting days on). Maybe I thought he'd grown out of it? Maybe I think he still might? Or at least he'll get bored with it? But the bottom line is I don't really care anymore. I used to. But now I think I have a more objective perspective. My "he's just an actor" statement mirrors my new approach to him. And I understand that others are much more...involved..."with" him...I get that. I don't know. I thought I'd add my two-cents on who I think the "real" Gerry is. I'm obviously in the minority here...so I'll bow out. Not like I've been overly active on this site for the past couple of years. (And I think I remember why now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagewomanjen Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Eh. I have to say I agree with Luv. I think there are a significant number of fans that romanticize Gerry. Don't get me wrong. Obviously I'm a fan. But it's been a wake up call that I appreciate him more for his work, his passion, and my IDEA of him than I probably do for the man himself. In all truth, I often wonder how many of us would be friends of his if we really knew him as a person. Certainly he's got a sensitive side, a generous, loving side, and a penchant for introspection. But I think he actually acts out because he's unsure of himself sometimes, despite him seeming to be very confident. I don't personally know him, but I think there's a side to him that I would find exasperating. The temper alone would probably get me. But at the very least, I've got to respect him. And I find that smokin' hot men who are very fun-loving and charming do get away with murder, but people seem to mind less...it's not fair, but it's true. 'Course, I can say this because it's absolutely true that if he met me, he'd probably like some bits of my personality, respect me, and maybe he'd find me frustrating. Goodness only knows, but it's his right. Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa722 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 7, 2008 by lisa722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DonnaKat Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) My impression of that premiere was that he was 100% in celebrity mode, doing a choreographed job for his studio. I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you there. He isn't "required" by his studio to cross the street to meet with fans during a premiere, and judging from what I've heard from others, that is the exception and not the norm for an actor to do so. If it were all an act set up by his studio, his "choreography" would have taken him all the way down the block instead of stopping at a particular point. I was at the Nims premiere, and I know there were fans that were upset he didn't make it down far enough to meet them. If he were simply trying to "please the masses" as it were, he wouldn't have come over at all. After all, better to disappoint the whole than make a few happy...right? My point I made before and I'm going to reiterate again is this: Gerry is human. I don't make excuses for him, nor do I put him on a pedestal. But at the same time I don't dehumanize him just because he's an actor, acting as if somehow he lost his heart and soul and sold his convictions to the devil just because he moved to LA. He isn't a robot that can please everyone all the time. If he wants to go to a nightclub, let him go to a nightclub. He's a single guy, with no ties at home to attend to. It would be different I suppose if he had a wife and kids and was neglecting or stepping out on them. But he's not. He works hard, he should be able to unwind without people scrutinizing his every move. Edited June 1, 2008 by DonnaKat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa722 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 7, 2008 by lisa722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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