Swansong Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Mario actually did play Raoul in the stage show, but I'm not sure what theater or where. I think he's much more suitable to the role of the Phantom. Most die-hard Phans HATE the idea of a sequel. I sure hope it ends up being a beautiful show, despite the negativity out there. Deb.... maybe you, Sally and I could make a trip to Broadway if the sequel lands there! Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasharose Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think Knight Phantom hit the nail on the head. Gerry isn't a trained singer for the theater. That, in most cases - especially involving almost operatic music - takes years of training. However, I'm sure he could do musical theater where a more pop-oriented score was involved. The UK press was just throwing out names with no real thought behind it. Without Gerry, I'm not interested in any kind of Phantom production - sequel or current theater. It would just be a waste of my time. But then, there are very few films I want to see in which Gerry isn't the star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I'm afraid a rigorous 8 shows a week stage musical would chew Gerry up and spit him out. A stage show performer MUST have tremendous vocal stamina and lots of training, just to keep the voice in shape. Even the very best and most experienced stage musical performers are subject to illness and fatigue. Michael Crawford himself fought illness through much of the POTO run, but his years of training pulled him through. Gerry was a brilliant in the film, but his voice just doesn't have the strength or control to perform Phantom on stage. He could do it for maybe a very short run.... but not for a typical Broadway schedule. I would love to see Gerry perform MOTN on stage just once..... that would be amazing! Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBPhanatic Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) I'm afraid a rigorous 8 shows a week stage musical would chew Gerry up and spit him out. A stage show performer MUST have tremendous vocal stamina and lots of training, just to keep the voice in shape. Even the very best and most experienced stage musical performers are subject to illness and fatigue. Michael Crawford himself fought illness through much of the POTO run, but his years of training pulled him through. Gerry was a brilliant in the film, but his voice just doesn't have the strength or control to perform Phantom on stage. He could do it for maybe a very short run.... but not for a typical Broadway schedule. I would love to see Gerry perform MOTN on stage just once..... that would be amazing! Swannie That kind of schedule would eat anyone's lunch! I remember when I saw POTO on Broadway, the "program" booklet that I purchased showed different performers throughout the week, which I thought made sense. There may have been different performers, say on the matinee weekends then during the evening week nights. D P.S. I am as "die hard" a Phantom phan as it gets and I still think a sequel sounds wonderful! Edited December 30, 2008 by GBPhanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I believe alternate leads are used mainly in road shows.... but the primary leads in a Broadway musical do perform 8 shows a week.... unless there is illness. By die-hard Phans, I mean those Phans who are fans the original stage show. It's surprising just how many of those folks not only despise the 2004 film.... but also hate the very idea of Webber writing a sequel. I belong to one of the oldest POTO fantsites, and I've been amazed by the passionate attitudes there. Also, some of these folks have seen the stage show hundreds of times! Swannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I certainly would want to give the show a chance before condemning it, as are so many!! I also am dying to know the plot (how it differs from the POManhattan novel) and the MUSIC!! I can't wait to hear the music!! I am with you Swannie--I would love to see/hear Gerry perform MOTN on the stage!! I wish ALW much success with this endeavor--and with all the negativity I admire his perserverence in bring the show to the stage!! And if it makes it to the movies--well, then I would hope with all my heart that Gerry will be reprising the Phantom IF he wants to do it!! This is very exciting news, and although it would have to come to the West Coast for me to even think about being able to go, is it is successful, who knows--it just might!! Judy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Mario actually did play Raoul in the stage show, but I'm not sure what theater or where. I think he's much more suitable to the role of the Phantom. Most die-hard Phans HATE the idea of a sequel. I sure hope it ends up being a beautiful show, despite the negativity out there. Deb.... maybe you, Sally and I could make a trip to Broadway if the sequel lands there! Swannie I think that would be THE BEST!!!!!!! I can see the 3 of us traipsing around New York for a week...... And Judy, I'm sure that if the show is a success (like it wouldn't be!!) it will have a road production. I'm just an impatient phan, and don't want to wait two years or more for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 All of the news papers are buzzing about this! Even Forbes weighed in! They are all cutting from the Times, but hey! it's getting the word out. This from Filmstalker...and they think Gerry should do the film! http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008..._sequel_re.html Is it November yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redroseblackribbon Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) I saw this article in a local paper today....it was so exciting just to see Gerry's name in bold print......I could never see Gerry doing the stage show....I simply don't think his busy carreer right now would allow it, but if a film sequel was done, I would never want to see anyone but Gerry of course, no one but any of the original cast to be honest.....I know Gerry loved his role as the Phantom, putting so much of himself into it, but I wonder if he would want to switch back to something like that again...of course, he owes a lot to POTO..........I think he realizes that was when a big amount of his fan base "found " him.......to Phantom or not to Phantom...either way, Gerry, I'm there......it would be a dream come true to hear him sing again , though. Edited January 1, 2009 by redroseblackribbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerran Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) I haven't liked some of the rumors that I have heard about this sequel, but I am willing to give it a chance. It would be cool if Gerry could do it on stage, but he doesn't have the strength of voice for it. Also, I wouldn't be able to see him on stage anyways, even though I agree with the person who said that it would be nice to see Gerry perform "Music of the Night" live. Now that would be nice beyond words, and I would be more than happy to volunteer as his Christine. If this sequel turns out to be any good, I would love to see Gerry in the film version of it, along with Emmy and Patrick also reprising their roles as Christine and Raoul. I agree that Gerry owes a lot of his success to his role in Phantom, which is no doubt the role which brought the most fan attention to him; I know that it was Phantom that got me interested in Gerry. I have seen several of his other movies, but none of them has touched me as much as Phantom has. I would also love to hear Gerry sing again. I have listened to the Phantom of the Opera soundtrack so many times I honestly need new material to listen to, especially if I get to hear Gerry's voice in that new material. Edited January 1, 2009 by gerran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisleyscot Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I've seen some Phantom news posted lately. Here is something I saw in the Chicago Tribune..... Here's a link to ChicagoTribune.com Phantom Webber: 'Phantom of the Opera' sequel in the works; may open on 3 continents By Associated Press 10:20 AM CST, December 30, 2008 LONDON (AP) — Composer Andrew Lloyd Webber says the long awaited sequel to "Phantom of the Opera" should be ready at the end of 2009, with a possible simultaneous opening on three continents. Lloyd Webber told The Times of London that he hopes the new musical, to be called "Phantom: Love Never Dies," will open in New York, London and possibly Shanghai or another Asian city. "We've been into the feasibility of rehearsing three companies at once and opening very fast in the three territories," he said. "The one which really interests me would be China. I think to open 'Love Never Dies' in Shanghai would be an enormous thing." He said the locale of the celebrated musical will be switched from the Paris Opera to New York's Coney Island. The sequel will be set about 10 years after the original, which has been seen by approximately 80 million theatergoers in 124 cities worldwide. And who will play the Phantom? Lloyd Webber is keeping that secret for now. "We are pretty clear who our Phantom is going to be — I can't say who," he said. The Times said possible candidates for the role include Hugh Jackman and Gerard Butler, who played the Phantom in the 2004 film version of the musical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflo Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) Phantom of the Opera News on the first page of today's Film School Rejects website. (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/) bflo Edited January 2, 2009 by bflo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Admin, is there a way to move these posts to the original Phantom sequel post? just to keep all the info together and avoid any duplication? Thanks for the link Paisley. The info seems to be culled from the original article here post #16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan~Sporran Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I will merge the two threads to keep all of it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I will merge the two threads to keep all of it together. Thanks Susan! The Mod Squad is the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixgirl Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Should be interesting. This is the first I've heard that they have their Erik already. I wonder who they chose? I'm wondering if it's a relative unknown or someone really famous? Hugh Jackman would be a good choice . . . I don't see Gerry doing it at all. Also, if they have more than production in the plans there will be more than one Erik. It'll be fun to see how this all plays out . . . Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 thanks for the news One article I read said the story would take place in Coney Island after he escaped from the last movie now that would be interesting to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Rose Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Gerry on Broadway Broadway I found these articles the other day and was wondering if anyone else read them. If you haven't what are your thought on it? In my opinion I don't care how bad a sequel might end up being, if Gerry or Hugh Jackman are on stage then I intend on being there. I missed Hugh last time he was on Broadway I won't miss him again! And if Gerry is there.... OMG!! Live and singing right before me! Yes, Please!!! I apologize if this has already been posted. I didn't see it anywhere else so I figured I'd share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Amanda, we have quite the discussion about the sequel going here Mods, can we blend this one too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Phantom Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!!!! More Phantom~Love Never Dies news!!!! From Broadway World Sierra Boggess is currently singing 'Music In The Air' as part of the cast of the new Encores! production, will she soon be singing 'The Music of the Night' in the upcoming sequel to The Phantom of the Opera, 'Love Never Dies'? If The Daily Mail's Baz Bamigboye has his facts correct, then she will indeed be portraying the Phantom's true love, Christine Daae, a role she played in the Las Vegas presentation of the Andrew Lloyd Webber mega hit musical. In truth 'RIALTO' sources have long confirmed her having a lock on the role. Bamigboye reports that Andrew Lloyd Webber and the team behind Phantom: Love Never Dies, are meeting in New York this very weekend to figure out how they're going to stage it in the West End and on Broadway simultaneously and, fingers and half mask crossed, in Shanghai just a short few months later. This bold move will mean casting the show three times. As reported in The Daily Mail, Ramin Karimloo, born in Iran and raised in Toronto, and actress Sierra Boggess have been cast. But, as yet, no one's certain whether they will open in New York or London first. The role of The Phantom of the Opera was created by musical theatre superstar Michael Crawford and Christine Daae was shaped and written for her original portrayer, Sarah Brightman. Karimloo is currently playing the Phantom in the London production, while Boggess, who created the part of Ariel in The Little Mermaid on Broadway, performed as Christine Daae a couple of years ago in the Las Vegas abridged version of Phantom explains Bamigboye. The pair have also essayed the Phantom and Christine during the workshop rehearsals in London, Aaron Lazar played the role of Raoul in the last reading, so in effect have created the creative guideline for how the roles of the leads will be played on three continents. Sources have thrown another name in the Christine casting mix, Elena Shaddow (Light in the Piazza, London's Showboat). Ms. Shaddow played Christine in the last workshop with Karimloo and Lazar. She's reportedly on the short list for Christine as well (Word is she could perform it in London). Director Jack O'Brien and designer Bob Crowley, are shaping a production schedule that would have a long period of previews for Love Never Dies at the Adelphi Theatre in the fall and at the chosen theatre the producers settle on in New York (a deal is imminent, Bamigboye informs). To read the entire Daily Mail story click here. You'll also read the news that a few of the musical's songs may be debuted on American Idol later this season. Lloyd Webber only recently confirmed his very active plans for Phantom: Love Never Dies, the sequel to his worldwide mega hit musical The Phantom of the Opera. In an earlier interview with The London Times Lloyd Webber revealed the hope to open 'Phantom: Love Never Dies' simultaneously in three different locations across the globe. He told the Times, "I don't think you could do this if it wasn't the sequel to Phantom ... We've been into the feasibility of rehearsing three companies at once and opening very fast in the three territories. The one which really interests me [in the Far East] would be China ... I think to open Love Never Dies in Shanghai would be an enormous thing." He gave even more information regarding the above statement by confirming the news on his personal site, "I am delighted to confirm that following a successful sing-through of the complete score of "Love Never Dies" (the sequel to "The Phantom of the Opera") in the lead-up to Christmas, I have decided to greenlight the production. Of course you never can tell how things will turn out, but we are exploring the idea of opening the show in the UK, America and the Far East in the autumn of 2009. This is a very exciting idea but obviously we have to see that it is logistically possible". He also confirmed that "Love Never Dies" is set in America's Coney Island approximately ten years after the beginning of the original story. In those days Coney Island was one of the wonders of the world, far eclipsing the excesses of Las Vegas today. The story continues the tale of the Phantom, Raoul, Christine, Madame Giry and Meg." Andrew Lloyd Webber was recently voted the most influential figure in theatre over the last decade by UK's The Stage newspaper. Produced by Cameron Mackintosh/Really Useful Group, Inc. and directed by theater legend Harold Prince, THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA is in its phenomenal 21st year in New York, playing at The Majestic Theatre (247 West 44th Street). On Broadway, since its debut on January 26, 1988, THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA has grossed over $700 million, making it the highest-grossing show in Broadway history. The production has played over 8,600 performances and total New York attendance is over 12.5 million. PHANTOM became the longest-running show in Broadway history on January 9, 2006 (surpassing Cats) and has now played well over 1,000 performances and more than two and a half years since breaking that record - and all with no end in sight. Its internationally success - equally staggering - is represented by a total worldwide box office gross of more than $5 billion, making PHANTOM the most successful entertainment venture of all time, surpassing not only any other stage production, but also far surpassing the world's highest-grossing film Titanic (at $1.2 billion) and such other blockbusters as The Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park and Star Wars. Worldwide attendance is over 80 million people, having played over 65,000 performances in 25 countries and 124 cities. It's won over 50 Theater awards including 7 Tonys, and there are currently 8 productions around the world. The next international opening will be Perth, Australia in February 2009. THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA has music by Andrew Lloyd Webber and is directed byHarold Prince. Lyrics are by Charles Hart (with additional lyrics by Richard Stilgoe) and the book is by Richard Stilgoe and Andrew Lloyd Webber. THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA has production design by the late Maria Björnson, lighting by Andrew Bridge, sound design by Mick Potter and original sound design by Martin Levan. Musical staging and choreography is by Gillian Lynne. Orchestrations are by David Cullen and Andrew Lloyd Webber. From Playbill Will Sierra Boggess Be Christine in Phantom Sequel? By Kenneth Jones 06 Feb 2009 Sierra Boggess The talk of the town is that Sierra Boggess, the golden-voiced actress who created the role of The Little Mermaid on Broadway, will be an older — but perhaps no less romantically conflicted — Christine in the sequel to Andrew Lloyd Webber's The Phantom of the Opera. Baz Bamigboye of The Daily Mail Online reported that Phantom: Love Never Dies will star Boggess (who was Christine in Phantom: The Las Vegas Spectacular) and Ramin Karimloo (who plays the masked tenor in the London production of The Phantom of the Opera). The question is, where will they bow? Lloyd Webber has said he wants to have three simultaneous openings of the show — on Broadway, in London and in Shanghai, in late 2009. The feasibility is still being determined by the composer and his partners. As previously announced, Jack O'Brien (Hairspray, The Coast of Utopia) will direct; Bob Crowley (The Coast of Utopia, Mary Poppins, Tarzan) is the designer; Glenn Slater (The Little Mermaid) is the lyricist. Representatives for composer-librettist Lloyd Webber and Boggess could not confirm the accuracy of the casting report. Boggess and the Iranian-born Canadian Karimloo have reportedly worked on Love Never Dies in the project's developmental workshops. In Love Never Dies, the disfigured Phantom — who released his beloved soprano and her love, Raoul, at the end of The Phantom of the Opera, and then disappeared in a flash — has been relocated from the Paris Opera to Brooklyn's Coney Island. Christine apparently has a son, and is unhappily married to a now dissipated Raoul. The new story was created by Lloyd Webber, lyricist Slater, director O'Brien "and a twist of it was given to us by Ben Elton," the composer previously said. The Phantom of the Opera, based on the novel by Gaston Leroux, recently celebrated its 21st anniversary at Broadway's Majestic Theatre. A London production also continues, as do productions all over the world (including a long-running North American tour). Harold Prince directed the original. Boggess made her Broadway debut as Ariel in The Little Mermaid. She originated the role of Christine Daae in the 90-minute retooled Phantom in Las Vegas, directed by Prince. Her other credits include the national tour of Les Misérables, the world premiere of Princesses (Binky) for Goodspeed Musicals and 5th Avenue Theatre in Seattle. She was a soloist in Lincoln Center's American Songbook: The Lyrics of David Zippel. Successful sequels to musicals are rare, but The Phantom of the Opera is an international brand with millions of diehard fans and repeat customers. The Daily Mail also reported that songs from Love Never Dies may premiere on this season's "American Idol" competition. Come on November!!!! Oh Swannie!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robyn51 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Have you all seen this? It is a song that was originally written by ALW for a Phantom sequel. It was first presented at Sir Andrew's 50th birthday celebration concert at Royal Albert Hall. This is a Phantom fan video featuring the song This is Dame Kiri's concert presentation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmargx Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 WOW!! what a find that is simply Heart breakingly beautiful..... They simply have to get the original movie cast back for this one....HAVE TO.... Have you all seen this? It is a song that was originally written by ALW for a Phantom sequel. It was first presented at Sir Andrew's 50th birthday celebration concert at Royal Albert Hall. This is a Phantom fan video featuring the song This is Dame Kiri's concert presentation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBPhanatic Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Have you all seen this? It is a song that was originally written by ALW for a Phantom sequel. It was first presented at Sir Andrew's 50th birthday celebration concert at Royal Albert Hall. This is a Phantom fan video featuring the song This is Dame Kiri's concert presentation That was amazing! Another wonderful score in the the works from ALW! I can't wait for this and I so hope when it goes to film, Gerry returns as the Phantom! What I'd give to write like that! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I LOVED the song and can't wait to hear the entire score. Hopefully they will release a cd soon after the show premieres. I may never get to see the stage version, but we can hope they don't wait years and years to make the movie!! I wish ALW and Company the very best for this new endeavor. Judy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansong Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Just an FYI, the song Robyn posted was indeed written for the Phantom sequel over 10 years ago, when Andrew was working on it back then. When the sequel did not happen, Andrew then used that same melody for his other show, Beautiful Game. I actually prefer Elaine Page's version better: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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