11/26 - Butler on being dubbed a ladies' man

[becozy]

from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/entertai...00/10003188.stm

Butler on being dubbed a ladies' man

Thursday, 26 November 2009

Gerard Butler has admitted that constant press reports painting him as a womaniser aren't always good for his reputation.

The Scottish actor, who has been linked in the tabloids with a string of women including Jennifer Aniston and Lindsay Lohan, says the speculation isn't necessarily a good thing.

He told Newsbeat: "I think it does do your reputation harm if this is happening every week.

"It gets to the stage when you want to go, 'Don't come near because then we'll be having a thing! Stay over there and we maybe can shout to each other'."

read the entire article: here

[BlackVelvet]

Seems like pressmen have got nothing to reproach him with, so they speculate on such things Lack of professionalism, that's all

"It gets to the stage when you want to go, 'Don't come near because then we'll be having a thing! Stay over there and we maybe can shout to each other'."

[may]

Kneau Reaves had the same problem and learned to keep the "paps" at arms length. His approach was to remain out of the "loop" and lay low away from the LA party life style.

[lavender1960]

Kneau Reaves had the same problem and learned to keep the "paps" at arms length. His approach was to remain out of the "loop" and lay low away from the LA party life style.

I hate to say it May but that is usually the most effective option.

The reality is GB is one of the IT actors of 2009 - working with Anniston first put him on the pap radar and then having 3 movies released in one year kept him there. GB might even be the victim of his own team's PR strategy. It has perhaps worked too well. Overexposure is potentially dangerous. Even Gerry said I'd be sick of myself by now. Bwah.

He can hope that someone else takes the mantle whilst he is laying low making films hopefully for most of 2010 but then some actors get nervous about laying too low. But sometimes a little mystery is good.

Let's hope that some sanity reigns in 2010 and I think with GB speaking out about this right now should help so more people will be skeptical about what they read. I mean I was already skeptical about the entertainment media -as an INXS fan we went through yet another lesson in how the media operates early in the year, that was eye opening but watching what is going on with GB has been yet another eye opener. So I am now more wholeheartedly skeptical about everything said about anyone which is actually a good thing. Maybe more celebs need to speak out. I for one will call out BS where I can regarding gossip items pertaining not just to GB but anyone.

And I guess he can't even joke about things like this, like saying yeah me and Jenn are fooking, as he has said or something about saying he has dreamed about it, not a good idea because they won't believe you are joking. Poor boy might have to "curb his enthusiasm", just a tad. We wouldn't want him to change too much. Either that or Gerry will have to just text people across the room or learn sign language. Funny but not funny.

The celebrities who seem able to maintain their privacy either chose not to even live in LA or NY or London or if they do, they don't bother with the party circuit. Or at least try to avoid all the places that the paps are known to hang out at. They can't possibly be posted at all the great restaurants and bars in all those cities every night, can they? Of course right now GB also can't talk to any unmarried woman at actual industry events without a big deal being made either and many of the events he has to attend.

Speaking of low profile, I was shocked to see Daniel Day Lewis on Oprah recently. He is doing that musical movie NINE, clearly based on Fellini's 8 1/2, with Nicole Kidman and Kate Hudson and I thought OMG I had not seen nor heard about DDL in years, where was he hiding and I was actually surprised at how giggly and humble he was. I always thought he was usually rather intense and way too serious last time I ever saw him interviewed which had to be several years ago before this Oprah thing. I guess family life has agreed with him. I mean he was driving the kids to school, making their lunches etc, just being a Dad. Too cute.

Edited November 26, 2009 by lavender1960

[Jeb]

Not everybody wants to live in seclusion. Keanu's temperament is of a more reclusive nature to begin with. The fault is not with people living a normal life but with those who create and feed on lies. I do applaud everyone/anyone who learns to evaluate what they're being fed by the media, gossip or mainstream, in all areas. Just because something's in print doesn't mean it's "so". Evaluating information using logic, common sense and experience is always a good idea.

jane

[DNice09]

People are going to think, and believe what they want. If Gerry wants to curb some of that he can stay away from pap hotspots like certain clubs in LA.

The pix of him walking or riding his bike are going to happen over time, and eventually he maybe caught with an ACTUAL special someone....God have mercy on her soul when that happens!

I'm sure he's a ladies man to some degree. However, I think it's grossly exaggerated. I'm not sure if this big ladies man thing is an invention of pr or the press, but IMO the answer lies somewhere in the middle. Over all I think he's a good guy just trying to have a little fun with his friends, family, and some of the gorgeous women he meets.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate!

D

[Peah1980]

Ok, I think that a lot of women want this man, and it would be hard for any man to resist lots of beautiful women willing to do whatever they want. I'm sure he might think he would like to settle down but it doesn't seem like he's that into it right now. Maybe he thinks he should want to settle down. It would be hard for someone like him to find someone who actually wants him for him and not his status.

He's also the kind of man who seems to be turned on by lots of different things and then lose interest. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just who he is. Maybe that's why he's not married yet. Now I know all of us on here would like to fancy him with all of the qualities of our dream guy, which is ok, because we don't know him. But if we ever met him we might realize that it was just all in our heads and be disappointed. Fantasize away, but realize it's just fantasy.

[lavender1960]

Not everybody wants to live in seclusion. Keanu's temperament is of a more reclusive nature to begin with. The fault is not with people living a normal life but with those who create and feed on lies. I do applaud everyone/anyone who learns to evaluate what they're being fed by the media, gossip or mainstream, in all areas. Just because something's in print doesn't mean it's "so". Evaluating information using logic, common sense and experience is always a good idea.

jane

True enough, no one would want anyone to live in seclusion but avoiding certain hotspots that are frequented by paps is not the same as never going out at all.

The moment you become famous your life is never really truly normal again - it's one of the huge trade offs of being a successful actor. You in effect make a deal with the devil whether you realize it or not. Just that the devil is bigger and faster and arguably more vicious than ever thanks to technology

Many celebrities/actors/actresses and their families manage to maintain as normal a life as they can under the circumstances but it goes without saying that it gets harder as you become more famous and you probably have to make choices. And then you have to worry about the nutters and the stalkers. Only when one's star begins to fade or one chooses to stay out the limelight completely , then maybe you can get back to old normal which I suspect most find that life hard to go back to. Of course back in 1999 Gerry probably couldn't get into those hotspots so fame also has its perks. Double-edge swords are fun huh.

And yes Peah being a ladies man is also a double edged sword, though men still don't face the same double standard as a woman who enjoys the company of many many men in her single life. Should we not call her a gentlemen's woman? A manizer or is that maneater?

Yes it's great to be considered attractive and desirable by all these beautiful women and why not enjoy it - better now, get it all out of your system, when you are single unlike some actors who are married when their star hits and then too bad for the wife and the kids. I'm a kid in the candy store, Got little respect for that lot.

But you also might just scare away all the quality woman when you are ready to settle down, the women who will love you for you and also meet your standards of intelligence, personality and of gorgessity - they will just assume you can't commit to a long term relationship and are not to be trusted, that you are just like most actors, so won't even give you a chance. As it is the fame element alone will scare many quality women away unless they are at a similar level of fame or very tough/thickskinned. Now lots of women will still be happy to marry you for your money and fame though. And many men in Hollywood as smart as Gerry have been fooled by the latter group. Sometimes the gorgessity fogs the brain waves.

Edited November 26, 2009 by lavender1960

[DNice09]

It's been my experience that regardless of how much, fame, money or whatever a man has....they seem to loose their marbles when a woman that they find very attractive expresses an interest in them.

Maybe it's something from the past. You know they always wanted to a date a model, actress, stripper and those women would never, ever give them the time of day. Then one day they put in all this work, and bam all of a sudden the women that wouldn't spit in their general direction are now paying attention, and sometimes even fighting for it.

Unfortunately women who enjoy the company of many men, even if they're just dating have only one common name, and I think it's BS. I've always admired those women who did what men did with no shame and straight didn't give a crap what anyone else thought!

D

[lovetheeloquence]

Call it intuition, but I really do think he will be knocked over by a woman in the future. And as it is for many men and women alike, I suspect it will happen when he least expects it. And I hope: 1) she is sweet and kind, and falls for his wonderful soul; 2) she is strong and confident; and, 3) it hits them both so hard that there will be no question in either of their minds about the other.

Didn't he recently state that someday he would like a relationship and perhaps children but that he wasn't sure he would ever marry?

The world has changed and it seems, especially in the celebrity world, that this is more common all the time.

Leslie

[AbandonThought]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick of seeing these articles that are focused almost exclusively on Gerry's personal life. It's great that the rest of the world is beginning to recognize him, but it seems like they're forgetting that he's an actor and are turning him into a plain old celebrity. And I'm sure he gets sick of having to explain in every interview why he's not married yet. Seriously? Why can't they just ask about the films? *Sigh*

Oh, and either there was some mistake here, or it's just extremely bad writing with regards to quote placement... "'I've been in relationships and that's been great but that has its own problems when you're travelling as much as I do.' He went on to and also said: 'I've not been [in a relationship] and that's been great but that has its own problems.'"

Yeesh.

Steph

[phoenixgirl]

Don't worry, Gerry - I'm sick of seeing your face in the tabloid/gossip "stories" also. Everything is always taken out of context.

But Gerry will do whatever he wants, and that's why we love him. He doesn't let BS stop him from living his life. We can all wish in one hand and shite in the other all we want, and so can every other woman out there who follow him in and out of clubs, and Gerry will always be his own man and do whatever he wants whenever he wants.

Go enjoy your life, G.

[GBPhanatic]

Gerry admits he's been in relatively long term relationships before and no one knew. During those times, he was caught out in clubs, women on each arm (supposedly), proposing to Bollywood actresses (in jest), and photographed talking to young women in valet parking areas. It appeared he was behaving as a single male and there's nothing wrong with that if you are, in fact, single, but if during that time he was in a supposed relationship, this kind of public display/information could be very difficult on any relationship he had.

Gerry is not going to announce he's with anyone, even if he is. Then it would be open season for all to try to catch him with her. Then, if the relationship moved to the level of being more permanent, then it might be a different story. I think Gerry is like the kid in the candy store to a great extent and even though he's acted for some time, he's not been as popular as he has become in the last few years or so and that brings on the attention from the beautiful women and I'm sure he enjoys that, but even that will take it's course and he'll get tired of it.

I can imagine it would be very difficult in Hollywood to find someone who genuinely loved you and wanted to be with you because of you and not because you're famous or rich. I'm sure having the reputationn of being a "womanizer" or "lady's man" isn't going to help either.

Men can be fooled, it's true, by a pretty face, and try to talk themselves in to making a superficially beautiful woman more than she really is. They like to be seen around with her. I don't really see Gerry as that type at all. Even though Gerry seems attracted to beautiful women on the outside, if it doesn't extend on to the inside, I"m sure he looses interest, or at least it seems that way. He's too intelligent, spiritual, soulfull and sensitive for shallow people but he's also Gerry and we all know who that is too, the outspoken, joking, swearing, flirt. It's gonna have to be a very patient and understanding woman who takes all of that with a grain, not to mention the reputation that precedes him, albeit not always true or he's going to have to change some of his ways.

I say if you have to change who you are to make the other person more comfortable, then that's not the basis of a long lasting relationship. Some little changes can be good though but it's like that saying, "I love you for who you are, now change!" Gerry can sometimes appear shallow himself too, which I believe he's just fooling around and that might cause him some grief and also set him up to attract those with the same characteristics and repel the good ones.

Then there's the danger of not meeting the right woman because she might not attract him so much physically or be put off by his actions/reputation and I think Gerry might be learning that too, that you have to look a little deeper on the inside of a person sometimes first and they even become more attractive the more you know them. She may not be a fashion model or even a head turner, but she's probably got more to offer then is obvious. He'll know it when he's close to her, it's a chemistry that goes beyond what the eye sees superficially.

To be honest, it was not Gerry's "looks" that first attracted me to him. It was his acting, his soulfulness and then as I learned more about him, the more appealing and attractive he became physically. He's not the most handsome man in the world but looks never played a big part in what I find good qualities but he's got this sexuality and sensuality about him and this "thing" about him that is attractive, the way he smiles, his eyes with the way they let you see down inside of his soul, the way he flirts, the way he gets embarrassed, his laugh, the way he speaks, that little boy quality that makes you want to just take him home, and so on!

Some men have trouble with being blinded by some ideal they think they want and get disenchanted when it doesn't fulfill them like they expected. I suspect that's happened to him a time or two as well. When Gerry settles in to his own and gets comfortable then that's when the right person will come in. Some successful people never feel comfortable with where they're at and are always striving for something else, reinventing themselves and so on, and that may just be who he is too. The ever changing and evolving Gerry, so to speak. Then again, perhaps he's got us all fooled again.

Delene

[Rubee815]

The level of tabloid coverage of celebrities these days is far more intense and constant then anything that has come before. We have the internet to thank for this intense saturation. And Gerry has become well known right in the middle of this explosion. I’ve always found the fact that a single 40 year man has a sex life is not that big of a deal. Gerry is not much different from any other successful professional who puts work and work goals first and keeps his love life simple and uncomplicated. I suspect even if he were not famous his approach to his romantic life would be the same. At some point he’ll see a relationship he wants and will put his time and energy into it, most likely with some of the same focus he put into his career He seems to be very capable of having quality friendships with women this would most likely be where a serious relationship would develop.

I don’t blame him for being concerned about the coverage, it’s impossible to know what sort of traction the constant phony gossip will have, I suspect it’s impossible to know exactly what to do in his position, when it really doesn’t matter what he does or says because the gossip rags will make stuff up anyway. And he is still very much on a learning curve with all this. As his career shifts with each new role it’s possible the coverage will become less focused on his private life. He’ll no longer be the new guy on the block, eventually the rags will find someone else.

[PattheGerryKat]

Wow, this article has certainly stirred up a lot of reaction, and rightly so. The rumours about Gerry being seen with various women has been going around for years but yes, since LAC and the filming of The Bounty, Gerry's social life has become an open book. I remember Gerry being linked with such beauties as Naomi Campbell, Amber Vallletta ("Gamer"), Jessica Simpson, and his "Waverly Inn" women. As long as their are paps lurking in bushes and living in their cars just in case they happen to see something "juicy", stuff like this will continue. After all, someone is paying these people to get a story, whether it's fact or speculation. I think Gerry has handled himself quite gallantly, and the barrister in him knows how to pick his battles.

On another, yet similar subject, I was watching a show about Elvis. It was interesting to hear that because of Elvis' image as a global sex symbol his agent strongly recommended that he not get married to Priscilla (or anyone, for that matter). Despite his urgings, Elvis thought he could keep his marriage under wraps. We all know what happened, and how long that remained a secret. I don't know how many fans he lost when word got out but even dead, Elvis still reigns supreme in the eyes of many. Not surprisingly, I thought of Gerry and what he would do under the circumstances. I also considered whether anyone had asked Gerry to portray Elvis. Can you imagine it? I can, and now I need a cold shower.

TTFN ladies.

[AbandonThought]

I have to say, I don't enjoy all this conjecture about Gerry's personal life. Who he's seeing, who he's been seen with, and what he's doing when he may or may not be in a relationship... It all just seems like it's nobody's business, and we fans should respect that more than anyone. Plus, as pointed out above, everything can be taken out of context, especially when we only get a snapshot of an interaction that the press ends up sensationalizing as much as possible.

I'm just going to support Gerry's career and let him live his own life however he sees fit.

Steph

[GBPhanatic]

I have to say, I don't enjoy all this conjecture about Gerry's personal life. Who he's seeing, who he's been seen with, and what he's doing when he may or may not be in a relationship... It all just seems like it's nobody's business, and we fans should respect that more than anyone. Plus, as pointed out above, everything can be taken out of context, especially when we only get a snapshot of an interaction that the press ends up sensationalizing as much as possible.

I'm just going to support Gerry's career and let him live his own life however he sees fit.

Steph

You're right, Steph, it is no body's business, however, he's no different than any other celebrity and his personal life is going to be out there and if people don't know what that really is, even when Gerry tries to keep it a secret, stuff will be made up anyway because all they want is to sell their crap. People will believe what they want to. Gerry's real fans will take it in stride. The only ones that would believe any of the negative stuff are not fans anyway. They're just the ones that might be up just one step from the "Gerard who?" people and there probably aren't many of those any more, if any.

Delene

[lavender1960]

I always found it sad that Tom Jones was told to keep his wife a secret from the get go because it would ruin his sex symbol image, sad for his wife, sad for his kids, and sad for him to live a lie. Not so sad because I think he took full advantage of that "secret" Not like everyone in their little village in Wales didn't know but then it would keep the media away. Not sure when that cat got out of the bag even then the famliy was kept in the background as much as possible. Not for their benefit but to propel the sex symbol image. But he and his wife are still married apparently. After 50 years. And I believe his son manages his career now.

But I thought that was just an 1960's outdated concept that you had to be single or perceived to be single to be sexy or that you couldn't be as successful as an artist if you were married.

Presumably today that is an outdated concept but maybe it is isn't - however I merely point to one example, Hugh Jackman, married with kids, and still considered hot and very marketable.

Edited November 27, 2009 by lavender1960

[may]

Wow, this article has certainly stirred up a lot of reaction, and rightly so. The rumours about Gerry being seen with various women has been going around for years but yes, since LAC and the filming of The Bounty, Gerry's social life has become an open book. I remember Gerry being linked with such beauties as Naomi Campbell, Amber Vallletta ("Gamer"), Jessica Simpson, and his "Waverly Inn" women. As long as their are paps lurking in bushes and living in their cars just in case they happen to see something "juicy", stuff like this will continue. After all, someone is paying these people to get a story, whether it's fact or speculation. I think Gerry has handled himself quite gallantly, and the barrister in him knows how to pick his battles.

On another, yet similar subject, I was watching a show about Elvis. It was interesting to hear that because of Elvis' image as a global sex symbol his agent strongly recommended that he not get married to Priscilla (or anyone, for that matter). Despite his urgings, Elvis thought he could keep his marriage under wraps. We all know what happened, and how long that remained a secret. I don't know how many fans he lost when word got out but even dead, Elvis still reigns supreme in the eyes of many. Not surprisingly, I thought of Gerry and what he would do under the circumstances. I also considered whether anyone had asked Gerry to portray Elvis. Can you imagine it? I can, and now I need a cold shower.

TTFN ladies.

I know what you mean there; I was one of the "fans" who; after Elvis got married; strayed to the Beatles for comfort....for a while. I think that is what drew me to Gerry at first; the fact that he (in POTO) resembled Elvis with his long side burns and white open shirt and raven black hair... If you look at one of my avatars you might see what I saw when he laughed...those dimples and those white teeth with a hint of impishness in his laugh...sigh I could see Gerry in a movie about Elvis...!

[Jeb]

I have to say, I don't enjoy all this conjecture about Gerry's personal life. Who he's seeing, who he's been seen with, and what he's doing when he may or may not be in a relationship... It all just seems like it's nobody's business, and we fans should respect that more than anyone. Plus, as pointed out above, everything can be taken out of context, especially when we only get a snapshot of an interaction that the press ends up sensationalizing as much as possible.

I'm just going to support Gerry's career and let him live his own life however he sees fit.

Steph

Very wisely said. And may Santa give you EVERYTHING you want for Christmas! Seriously!

janee

[dairyqueen]

I know he is thankful for his success! Six in one hand,half a dozen in the other.He is a single,unmarried man.The world is his right now.The speculating on his personal life has to get on his nerves because most of it is fabricated to sell magazines and papers.I just hope he is careful and keeps his most loyal and true friends close by."It's Not Unusual" by Tom Jones should be his theme song!

[guselsie]

How many actors (male and female) can we think of who found "the love of their life" - late in life? One comes to mind right away...Warren Beatty. He dated lots of women and fell for Annette Benning...married and I believe has 4 children.

If it is meant to be it will happen, if not, Oh! well.

I just want GB to go on making lots of GOOD movies and we may have all the fantasies that we want.

[cybrsal]

It's been my experience that regardless of how much, fame, money or whatever a man has....they seem to loose their marbles when a woman that they find very attractive expresses an interest in them.

Gerry has been with the most beautiful of women and he has kept his marbles. Smart man! Maybe it's just romantically thinking on my part, but I think he's looking for the one that touches and feeds his Soul, and that isn't done by looks alone.

I think TUT set him up for all the personal questions. People wanted to know his true opinion on relationships. Now, that seems to be the focus on a lot of the articles; Mike found his woman, now let's all find Gerry's. I think he should be allowed to keep his personal life as private as he wants it.

Sally

Edited November 28, 2009 by cybrsal

[DNice09]

I wasn't speaking just of physical beauty.

[lavender1960]

He hasn't lost his marbles yet because he's holding onto them too tight. Maybe that's the smarter thing to do right now. Sometimes you gotta roll the dice though.

Edited November 30, 2009 by lavender1960